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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2013, 06:31:37 PM »

Oh and yes saki I got it for $600... SHIPPED! lol not a bad deal. Steve hooked it up with the downpipes for $100 so all in all, $700 + $500 to fit and modify the XS downpipes to fit, $1200 installed for a full catless exhaust for the RS4, with oval tips. Not great, but not terrible. People pay $2,000 just for a '2.5"' catback for the RS4  Shocked
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2013, 08:19:23 PM »

Oh and yes saki I got it for $600... SHIPPED! lol not a bad deal. Steve hooked it up with the downpipes for $100 so all in all, $700 + $500 to fit and modify the XS downpipes to fit, $1200 installed for a full catless exhaust for the RS4, with oval tips. Not great, but not terrible. People pay $2,000 just for a '2.5"' catback for the RS4  Shocked
yeah that's not bad at all now that it fits

Bet it sounds killer.   The most annoying thing about milltek is how good it sounds... Makes me want to just buy a used one like you to throw on for fun.   Then I step back and don't do it

I have a Jhm catted beta fullback in my basement right now.   I haven't been in a rush to throw it on.   Still on audi warranty.   Actually got a cel for a knock sensor so we will get to put that to use if some work needs doing.
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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2013, 08:42:31 PM »

Ohhhh the irony

Bensti stepping into the thread about a company reverse engineering and ripping off a Jhm exhaust product.

Surprised he hasn't been blasted out of there yet lol


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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2013, 06:12:47 AM »

^^ saki, what app is that?

Also, did you read his reply:
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But you forget that much of what comes out of china is that, cheap replicas of other people's products...

I wonder what am I forgetting if I posted a similar statement referring to XSPower/SSAC Cheesy
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2013, 06:33:28 AM »

looks like tapatalk with a different color scheme.
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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2013, 07:35:15 AM »

^^ saki, what app is that?

Also, did you read his reply:
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But you forget that much of what comes out of china is that, cheap replicas of other people's products...

I wonder what am I forgetting if I posted a similar statement referring to XSPower/SSAC Cheesy


Tapatalk with the dark colour theme.   Good for night.
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« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2013, 03:26:16 PM »

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MAKE MODEL SUBMODEL ENGINE DRIVETRAIN TRANSMISSION YEAR
Audi S4 Avant Fits Any Engine Fits Any Drivetrain Fits Any Transmission 2006-2006
Audi S4 Avant Fits Any Engine Fits Any Drivetrain Fits Any Transmission 2008-2008
Audi S4 Avant 4.2L Fits Any Drivetrain Fits Any Transmission 2007-2007
Audi S4 Avant 4.2L Quattro DSG 2004-2004
Audi S4 Avant 4.2L Quattro Manual 2004-2008
Audi S4 Sedan 4.2L Quattro Fits Any Transmission 2004-2004
Audi S4 Sedan 4.2L Quattro Fits Any Transmission 2008-2008
Audi S4 Sedan 4.2L Quattro Manual 2004-2005
Audi S4 Sedan 4.2L Quattro Manual 2007-2008
Audi S4 Sedan 4.2L Quattro DSG 2005-2007
Audi S4 Avant 4.2L Quattro Fits Any Transmission 2006-2008
Audi S4 Avant Fits Any Engine Quattro Fits Any Transmission 2006-2006
Audi S4 Avant Fits Any Engine Quattro Fits Any Transmission 2008-2008

They even fit the super duper rare DSG B6-B7 S4!

I actually want to see people buying these headers. That way when I see "SSAC Headers" in their signature I will automatically know that the user I am looking at is a dumb ass.

"Here's your sign"

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« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2013, 12:41:13 PM »

looks like the thread got closed on AZ
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« Reply #58 on: June 13, 2013, 12:52:43 PM »

I don't know how often amyone says this... good for audizine

SsaChina has been knocking off venders and getting away with it for too long
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« Reply #59 on: June 13, 2013, 01:31:34 PM »

It's a cancer for the platform.
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« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2013, 09:26:12 PM »

It's a cancer for the platform.
if someone is dumb and cheap enough to pay 1000 for headers from ss auto clone,  who cares?

Further, from the viewpoint of the good companies like jhm,  those guys are not currently their target market anyway.    If someone who Is in JHM's target market,  and they are swayed out of it by someone cutting corners and going SSAC and saying it's great, clearly that person is not very bright and is likely quite cheap... Pennywise but pound foolish...and is not likely a real potential Jhm customer anyway.

The funny thing is that guys like this almost always EVENTUALLY buy the jhm stuff anyway. When they figure it out.
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« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2013, 10:33:17 AM »

I say its a cancer because one the cheap parts get accepted as a "product to buy" like it has happened in the B5 world, the platform will spiral downward and probably never recover.

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« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2013, 11:05:15 AM »

the platform is spiralling downward because it's becoming an old cheap acceesible performance car that is interesting.   

it's the chicken and the egg I guess, but I believe the ghettofication of the B6/7 owners is what begat the chinafication of performance parts.   Same in the B5.   

I've said it before, but the B5 is largely irrelevant now.   You just about never hear about anything happening over there that's interesting.  Why? because the platform is now a highschool car.   I used to browse the b5 forum, but now it's a total waste.  Race wars was a great example.   40 guys all gung ho to get together and strut their stuff.  In the end, a bunch of K03 and stage 3 minus cars who would all struggle their face off to get out of (or even in to) the 12s did some highway pulls.  There was a dragstrip night not far from where they all were.  Nobody went.  Meanwhile the big shots were ALL on the shelf, broken.   I'm sure it was a fun get together, but 6 years ago that type of event would have produced some epic win.  Now?  Nothing.
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« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2013, 11:13:47 AM »

I completely agree with what your saying. The cheaper the car, the cheaper the owner, the cheaper the parts purchased, the cheaper the car becomes.

I am glad I was able to get rid of my B5 when I did for the amount I did. (rich kids parents bought my car for him)

Looking at Craigslist in my local area and I see B5 1.8Ts selling as much or more than B5 S4s LOL


I can only wonder what SSautoclone will make next for the 4.2l
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« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2013, 11:16:32 AM »

I'm holding out for the SSautoclone BHF built motor for $2,000.   
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« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2013, 12:29:30 PM »

I think what the dumb ass kids dowt know is. When china starts copying parts big compamys stop help ing

The b5 is a great example. Stolen Sorcted At China comes in and starts stealing parts and the platform stops getting support.... the b5 is a great example of this. Sakimano was on the spot...chima bullshit parts came in and the b5 has gone backwards in both knowledge and advancements. Jhm steps back in with usa home made stuff and we see the first 10second car in 5 years and its backed up with another c7stomer running 11.7@126 with a car tyat still runs today....

These kids are too fucking stupid to realize that jhm isn't going to wamt to continue to develop and grow a platform when all there products are getting knocked off in china... as I said try calling china when something is wrong with your timing chains.....they wont amswer.... if these kids want the platform to *advance* support the company makeing the advancements not the companys copying the advancements.

Thankfully it looks lile most of the b6 and b7 guys are smart enough to knocw cheep shit when they see it.... really there was only a small few dumb enough to think getting these china pieces of shit was a good idea one of them was a guy who bought a pes supercharger.....kinda sums it up right there
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« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2013, 12:46:23 PM »

Thankfully it looks lile most of the b6 and b7 guys are smart enough to knocw cheep shit when they see it

I'm not gonna lie, I came close to getting myself a set of XSPower/SSAC 2.5" catless DPs when I couldnt find a set of catless milltek 2.5 DPs.....and then I remembered all the horror stories on the B5 S forums with the CK04s, the SSAC Autochrome exhaust and downpipes; not to mention my own personal experience at a GtG where a forum member took forever to attach his SSAC DPs to his exhaust AND the forum reviews.

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« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2013, 12:47:32 PM »

I was trolling the interwebs and came across this again on ebay..

This time the seller updated his ad with more pictures:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XS-Power-Longtube-Headers-for-Audi-B6-B7-S4-B6-B7-S4s-with-the-40-valve-4-2L/271202621100?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16803%26meid%3D105172073785427059%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D7926%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D261208316521%26

looks like some mid install pics
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« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2013, 08:53:39 PM »


Haha, the price is also $750 now instead of $1000.
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« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2013, 10:14:22 PM »

Interesting but not surprising, you don't see any pictures of the cross member on or them in the car. Those pictures are from a long time ago and they are from different locations.

The XS-tra_china headers have smaller ports then JHM and it seems everyone has figured out they are not 321. For those of you that are interested. We made 6 different revisions when building these headers for JHM. The first 4  attempts at making full length headers, we made almost no more power then catless Dps. Headers require several things to make them make power. Only the last 2 revisions did we get the formula right and make power.  China bob is missing the big 3 parts to the design and build dynamics to actually make big power.  It's just a bunch of pipes that all end up in the same place.


What XS_tra china has made is a real expensive set of catless dps that require you to pull your motor to put them on. Not only that but the ports are smaller then stock so your actually putting a part on the car that chokes it off right at the head.
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« Reply #70 on: July 27, 2013, 06:35:15 AM »



Is it me or does the passenger-side tube look like it curves inward towards the drive shaft?  Is it suppose to curve inward?
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« Reply #71 on: July 27, 2013, 06:36:19 AM »

damnit...pic is small.  its #8 on the pic browser.
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« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2013, 09:28:14 PM »

Anybody notice this:

" Q: Shipping to PR 00971 is $125?? Are header ready to ship??
A: yes and yes SAME LIKE THESE http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/exhaust-headers-jhm-longtube-stainless-steel-for-b6b7-s4-p-379.html Make Model Year Range Audi S4 - B6 2003 - 2005 Audi S4 - B7 2005 - 2008"


it was bad enough that they copy pasted the description straight from JHM's site before, it gets even worse when you are telling customers that your product is a direct knock-off
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« Reply #73 on: August 01, 2013, 01:17:10 AM »



Is it me or does the passenger-side tube look like it curves inward towards the drive shaft?  Is it suppose to curve inward?

Yes they are supposed to curve inward. They won't hit the driveshaft, well at least JHMs don't (they go under the driveshaft along with the catback), can't tell u about the Chinese ones. Lol have u looked under ur car at all?
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« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2013, 04:27:04 AM »

Anybody notice this:

" Q: Shipping to PR 00971 is $125?? Are header ready to ship??
A: yes and yes SAME LIKE THESE http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/exhaust-headers-jhm-longtube-stainless-steel-for-b6b7-s4-p-379.html Make Model Year Range Audi S4 - B6 2003 - 2005 Audi S4 - B7 2005 - 2008"


it was bad enough that they copy pasted the description straight from JHM's site before, it gets even worse when you are telling customers that your product is a direct knock-off

I saw that as well... I wonder if there is an option to report listings on ebay
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